Title: The Retreat at West Beach Parks Holiday Park - Latest Reviews, Deals & Photos 2026 - Expedia.ca [See all properties](http://www.expedia.ca/Hotel-Search?regionId=&adults=2&children=&sort=RECOMMENDED&useRewards=false&semdtl=&userIntent=&vip=false) # The Retreat at West Beach Parks Beach fun in outdoor pool, near West Beach Parks Golf ## Photo gallery for The Retreat at West Beach Parks ![Waterslide - The Retreat at West Beach Parks (West Beach)](https://images.trvl-media.com/lodging/9000000/8430000/8427200/8427197/3126d0f9.jpg?impolicy=resizecrop&rw=598&ra=fit) ![Full-size fridge, microwave, oven, stovetop - The Retreat at West Beach Parks (West Beach)](https://images.trvl-media.com/lodging/9000000/8430000/8427200/8427197/c24af438.jpg?impolicy=resizecrop&rw=297&ra=fit) ![Cabin | Terrace/patio - The Retreat at West Beach Parks (West Beach)](https://images.trvl-media.com/lodging/9000000/8430000/8427200/8427197/f66ca0ed.jpg?impolicy=resizecrop&rw=297&ra=fit) ![Full-size fridge, microwave, oven, stovetop - The Retreat at West Beach Parks (West Beach)](https://images.trvl-media.com/lodging/9000000/8430000/8427200/8427197/5a539196.jpg?impolicy=resizecrop&rw=297&ra=fit) ![Deluxe Bungalow, 2 Bedrooms | Exterior - The Retreat at West Beach Parks (West Beach)](https://images.trvl-media.com/lodging/9000000/8430000/8427200/8427197/973759e9.jpg?impolicy=resizecrop&rw=297&ra=fit) - Overview - Rooms - Location - Policies The Retreat at West Beach Parks provides a perfect escape near West Beach. Travelers can enjoy a round on the adjacent golf course, take a refreshing dip in the outdoor pool complete with waterslide, or play a match on the tennis court. ## Reviews 8.8 Excellent ## Popular amenities - Gym - Pool - Kitchen - Laundry - Parking included - Free WiFi ## Room options ### Check availability for these dates Tonight [Dec. 8 - Dec. 9](https://www.expedia.ca/Hotel-Search?startDate=2025-12-08&endDate=2025-12-09&selected=8427197&PinnedHotelID=8427197&HadPinnedHotel=true®ionId=-1&adults=2) [](https://www.expedia.ca/Hotel-Search?startDate=2025-12-08&endDate=2025-12-09&selected=8427197&PinnedHotelID=8427197&HadPinnedHotel=true®ionId=-1&adults=2) Tomorrow [Dec. 9 - Dec. 10](https://www.expedia.ca/Hotel-Search?startDate=2025-12-09&endDate=2025-12-10&selected=8427197&PinnedHotelID=8427197&HadPinnedHotel=true®ionId=-1&adults=2) [](https://www.expedia.ca/Hotel-Search?startDate=2025-12-09&endDate=2025-12-10&selected=8427197&PinnedHotelID=8427197&HadPinnedHotel=true®ionId=-1&adults=2) This weekend [Dec. 12 - 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[Sign in](https://www.expedia.ca/login?ckoflag=0&uurl=e3id%3Dredr%26rurl%3D%2FAdelaide-Hotels-The-Retreat-At-West-Beach-Parks.h8427197.Hotel-Information)[Sign up, it's free](https://www.expedia.ca/signup?enable_registration=true&uurl=e3id%3Dredr%26rurl%3D%2FAdelaide-Hotels-The-Retreat-At-West-Beach-Parks.h8427197.Hotel-Information) ## About the area ![Map](https://maps.googleapis.com/maps/api/staticmap?&size=660x330&map_id=3b266eb50d2997c6&zoom=13&markers=icon:https%3A%2F%2Fa.travel-assets.com%2Ftravel-assets-manager%2Feg-maps%2Fproperty.png%7C-34.95568%2C138.50865&channel=expedia-HotelInformation&maptype=roadmap&scale=1&key=AIzaSyCYjQus5kCufOpSj932jFoR_AJiL9yiwOw&signature=agmF0n0TOoe5R3WaZY0ioHoQ--k=) Military Road, West Beach, SA, 5024 #### What's nearby - West Beach \- 5 min walk \- 0.5 km - West Beach Mini Golf \- 5 min walk \- 0.5 km - Glenelg North Beach \- 7 min walk \- 0.6 km - Harbour Town Adelaide \- 3 min drive \- 2.3 km - Holdfast Marina \- 5 min drive \- 3.7 km #### Getting around - Jetty Road (Stop 16) Tram Stop - 5 min drive - Adelaide Hove Station - 9 min drive - Adelaide, SA Airport (ADL) - 9 min drive #### Restaurants - ‪Coffee Time Co - ‬4 min drive - ‪McDonald's - ‬3 min drive - ‪Boost Juice - ‬3 min drive - ‪Green & Grilled - ‬4 min drive - ‪Tapleys Charcoal Chicken - ‬4 min drive ## About this property ### The Retreat at West Beach Parks Upscale holiday park near West Beach Located close to West Beach Parks Golf and West Beach Mini Golf, The Retreat at West Beach Parks provides an adjacent golf course, a garden, and a playground. Free in-room WiFi is available to all guests, along with laundry facilities and a gym. You'll also enjoy the following perks during your stay: - An outdoor pool along with a waterslide - Free self parking and extended parking - An outdoor tennis court, smoke-free premises, and a vending machine - A banquet hall, barbecue grills, and tour/ticket assistance Room features All 84 rooms have comforts such as air conditioning, in addition to thoughtful touches like free WiFi and sound-insulated walls. 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Pool - Hot tub - Pet-friendly - Parking included 8.0 Very good 1,000 reviews CA $128 CA $140 total includes taxes & fees Dec 21 - Dec 22 [](https://www.expedia.ca/Hotel-Search?startDate=2025-12-21&endDate=2025-12-22&selected=67323&PinnedHotelID=67323&HadPinnedHotel=true®ionId=-1&adults=2) ## Property amenities ### Internet - Available in all rooms: Free WiFi - Available in some public areas: Free WiFi ### Parking and transportation - Free offsite parking - Free extended parking on site ### Things to do - Gym - Outdoor pool - Outdoor tennis court - Playground - Waterslide ### Family friendly - DVD player - In-room full-sized refrigerator/freezer - In-room kitchen - In-room microwave - Laundry facilities - Outdoor pool - Playground - Soundproofed rooms - Waterslide ### Conveniences - Laundry facilities - Limited-hour front desk - Vending machine ### Guest services - Change of bedsheets (on request) - Change of towels on request - Tour and ticket assistance ### Business services - Meeting room ### Outdoors - Barbecue grill - Direct access to the beach - Garden - On the boardwalk/promenade - Picnic area ### Accessibility - If you have requests for specific accessibility needs, please contact the property using the information on the reservation confirmation received after booking. - No elevator - Wheelchair accessibility - Wheelchair accessible (may have limitations) - Wheelchair-accessible registration desk ### More - Banquet hall - Smoking not allowed ## Room amenities ### Bedroom - Bedsheets provided ### Bathroom - Bathtub or shower - Hair dryer (on request) - Towels provided ### Entertainment - DVD player - Flat-screen TV ### Food and drink - Cookware, dishware, and utensils - Electric kettle - Full-sized refrigerator/freezer - Kitchen - Microwave - Oven - Stovetop - Toaster ### More - Air conditioning - Heating - Soundproofed rooms ## Policies ### Check-in Check-in start time: 2 PM; Check-in end time: 4 AM Contactless check-in available Late check-in subject to availability Minimum check-in age: 18 ### Check-out Check-out before 10 AM Contactless check-out available ### Special check-in instructions The front desk is open daily from 8 AM - 7:00 PM Front desk staffed during limited hours If you are planning to arrive after 7:00 PM please contact the property in advance using the information on the booking confirmation For any questions, please contact the property using the information on the booking confirmation Information provided by the property may be translated using automated translation tools This hotel’s reception is open daily from 8 AM to 9 PM during summer. ### Access methods Front desk (limited hours) ### Pets Pets not allowed (service animals are welcome, and are exempt from fees) ### Children and extra beds Children are welcome Rollaway/extra beds are not available Cribs (infant beds) are not available ### Property payment types ## Important information ### Fees You'll be asked to pay the following charges at the property. Fees may include applicable taxes: - Deposit: AUD 100 per stay We have included all charges provided to us by the property. ### You need to know Extra-person charges may apply and vary depending on property policy Government-issued photo identification and a credit card, debit card, or cash deposit may be required at check-in for incidental charges Special requests are subject to availability upon check-in and may incur additional charges; special requests cannot be guaranteed This property accepts credit cards; cash is not accepted Safety features at this property include a smoke detector This property has outdoor spaces, such as balconies, patios, terraces which may not be suitable for children; if you have concerns, we recommend contacting the property prior to your arrival to confirm they can accommodate you in a suitable room Please note that cultural norms and guest policies may differ by country and by property; the policies listed are provided by the property ### We should mention This property does not have elevators ### Property is also known as Adelaide Resort Adelaide Shores Adelaide Shores Resort Adelaide Shores Resort West Beach Adelaide Shores West Beach Resort Adelaide West Beach Parks West Beach Parks Resort The Retreat At West Parks West The Retreat at West Beach Parks West Beach The Retreat at West Beach Parks Holiday park The Retreat at West Beach Parks Holiday park West Beach ## Frequently asked questions ### Does The Retreat at West Beach Parks have a pool? ### Is The Retreat at West Beach Parks pet-friendly? ### How much is parking? ### What time is check-in at The Retreat at West Beach Parks? ### What time is check-out at The Retreat at West Beach Parks? ### Where is The Retreat at West Beach Parks located? ## Have a question? Beta Get instant answers with AI powered search of property information and reviews. Ask a question ## Reviews ## The Retreat at West Beach Parks Reviews 8.8 ### Excellent All reviews shown are from real guest experiences. Only travellers who have booked a stay with us can submit a review. We verify reviews according to our guidelines and publish all reviews, positive or negative.[More information](https://www.expedia.ca/lp/b/content-guidelines) ### 8.8 Cleanliness ### 8.8 Location ### 8.8 Staff & service ### 9.8 Eco-friendliness ### 8.6 Property conditions & facilities 10 - Excellent 462 8 - Good 302 6 - Okay 74 4 - Poor 17 2 - Terrible 6 ## Reviews ### 10/10 Excellent #### Tracey Aug 7, 2025 Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service, amenities, property conditions & facilities I loved the cabins single beds instead of bunks roomy great will definitely stay again ##### Tracey Stayed 2 nights in Aug 2025 ### 10/10 Excellent #### Amy May 13, 2025 Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service, property conditions & facilities A great place to stay either for a night or for a good break! ##### Amy Stayed 2 nights in May 2025 ### 10/10 Excellent #### Nathan Jun 17, 2025 Liked: Cleanliness, amenities, property conditions & facilities It had everything that I needed & was close to the areas I needed to travel to. ##### Nathan Stayed 2 nights in Jun 2025 ### 10/10 Excellent #### Jocelyn Sep 5, 2025 Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service, property conditions & facilities, room comfort The cabin seems new.. clean, 2 BR, one with king bed and one with 3 twin beds, everyone comfortable. Lot of things to do in this resort. Very nice. Will book it again. ##### Jocelyn Stayed 2 nights in Aug 2025 ### 10/10 Excellent #### Jillian Oct 22, 2025 Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service, property conditions & facilities Accommodation was new and clean. Property grounds well looked after. Gym could have had more equipment. Pool was good but happens to be quite deep with only one step for toddlers to access. Would be nice to have a small kid friendly pool too. ##### Jillian Stayed 5 nights in Oct 2025 ### 10/10 Excellent #### Nikki Sep 2, 2024 Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service, amenities, property conditions & facilities Great stay ##### Nikki Stayed 2 nights in Aug 2024 ### 10/10 Excellent #### Carla Nov 11, 2025 Liked: Cleanliness, amenities, property conditions & facilities . ##### Carla Stayed 2 nights in Nov 2025 ### 10/10 Excellent #### jamie Aug 20, 2025 Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service, property conditions & facilities, room comfort #### Great Always a pleasure:) ##### jamie Stayed 2 nights in Aug 2025 ### 8/10 Good #### Rohit Sep 21, 2023 Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service, amenities, property conditions & facilities Really good place to stay with kids. ##### Rohit Stayed 3 nights in Sep 2023 ### 10/10 Excellent #### Amrit Aug 20, 2025 Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service, property conditions & facilities Good ##### Amrit Stayed 2 nights in Aug 2025 ### 10/10 Excellent #### Dean Mar 26, 2024 Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service, property conditions & facilities, room comfort Beautiful quiet and all new cabins , perfect for our holiday, location was great close to everything with easy access ##### Dean Stayed 5 nights in Mar 2024 ### 10/10 Excellent #### Kimberley Aug 5, 2024 Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service, amenities, property conditions & facilities Fantastic stay! Looking forward to coming back again in the summer! ##### Kimberley Stayed 2 nights in Aug 2024 ### 10/10 Excellent #### Lateisha Apr 9, 2025 Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service, property conditions & facilities Autism friendly with a great sensory space for my little one to regulate as needed. Highly recommended for families traveling with neurodivergent children. ##### Lateisha Stayed 2 nights in Apr 2025 ### 10/10 Excellent #### Adam Oct 1, 2023 Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service, amenities, property conditions & facilities Great location ##### Adam Stayed 4 nights in Sep 2023 ### 10/10 Excellent #### John Mar 2, 2025 Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service, property conditions & facilities, room comfort The site and the cabin were very clean. The staff at reception were friendly and helpful. Certainly recommend this site and would use it again ##### John Stayed 3 nights in Feb 2025 ### 10/10 Excellent #### Kelly Apr 25, 2025 Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service, property conditions & facilities, room comfort #### Excellent value for money Great stay in a lovely location. Excellent price. Our accommodation was in need of a bit of TLC but over all clean and the facilities on site were excellent. It’s worth adding that the site is in the flight path and start early but if your an early riser this shouldn’t be an issue. ![](https://a.travel-assets.com/ugc/hotel-reviews/554ccb6f-dc4e-45a3-8cfd-69ba34b94c3e-1745558108009.jpg?impolicy=resizecrop&rw=204&ra=fit&q=high) ![](https://a.travel-assets.com/ugc/hotel-reviews/add60205-9ab1-4d82-907b-dcace9c2bb11-1745558106796.jpg?impolicy=resizecrop&rw=204&ra=fit&q=high) ##### Kelly Stayed 2 nights in Mar 2025 ### 10/10 Excellent #### Tracy Apr 14, 2024 Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service, property conditions & facilities Retreat was so roomy very clean retreat was quiet not far from facilities i will stay there again thanku ##### Tracy Stayed 2 nights in Apr 2024 ### 10/10 Excellent #### Michael Aug 4, 2024 Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service, property conditions & facilities The check in and check out was a very easy and none stressful process ##### Michael Stayed 2 nights in Aug 2024 ### 10/10 Excellent #### Kylie Jun 2, 2022 Liked: Cleanliness, amenities, property conditions & facilities, communication Our cabin was modern, clean, spacious and very family friendly. Staff were friendly and helpful. Very happy with our stay. ##### Kylie Stayed 2 nights in May 2022 ### 8/10 Good #### Belinda Aug 7, 2022 Liked: Cleanliness, amenities, property conditions & facilities, communication Second stay here. Still a great place for kids and easy location to get around Adelaide ##### Belinda Stayed 2 nights in Aug 2022 ### 10/10 Excellent #### Tessa Aug 2, 2022 Liked: Cleanliness, room comfort, communication The kids absolutely love the heated pool with the water slides. ##### Tessa Stayed 2 nights in Jul 2022 ### 10/10 Excellent #### Kirsty Oct 17, 2022 Liked: Cleanliness, amenities, property conditions & facilities, communication The girls at reception were super helpful. Location was ideal! ##### Kirsty Stayed 3 nights in Oct 2022 ### 10/10 Excellent #### Rowan Mar 9, 2023 Liked: Cleanliness, room comfort, communication Nice and close to beach and amenities. Great place for kids. Only thing that lets it down is that it is on the flight path from about 6am until 10pm. We really enjoyed our stay. ##### Rowan Stayed 2 nights in Mar 2023 ### 10/10 Excellent #### PRASHANT Jul 9, 2024 Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service, amenities, property conditions & facilities Fantastic property and you live life king size. Minor issues with plumbing but fixed on the spot. Access to beach, pool and airport. Comfortable and awesome place to book, we are coming again✨💫⭐️ ##### PRASHANT Stayed 2 nights in Jul 2024 ### 10/10 Excellent #### Sally Jun 26, 2022 Liked: Cleanliness, amenities, property conditions & facilities, communication Such a great place to stay. Would be easy to not leave the property at all. 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