Title: The Leatherback Lodge!! Channel front home! - Latest Reviews, Deals & Photos 2026 - Expedia.ca [See all properties](http://www.expedia.ca/Hotel-Search?regionId=8929&destination=North+Myrtle+Beach%2C+South+Carolina%2C+United+States+of+America&selected=37853976&adults=2&children=&sort=RECOMMENDED&useRewards=false&semdtl=&userIntent=&vip=false) Entire home # The Leatherback Lodge!! Channel front home! ## Photo gallery for The Leatherback Lodge!! Channel front home! ![Outdoor dining - The Leatherback Lodge!! Channel front home! (North Myrtle Beach)](https://images.trvl-media.com/lodging/38000000/37860000/37854000/37853976/8a6b32fc.jpg?impolicy=resizecrop&rw=598&ra=fit) ![Marina - The Leatherback Lodge!! Channel front home! (North Myrtle Beach)](https://images.trvl-media.com/lodging/38000000/37860000/37854000/37853976/d5b379a9.jpg?impolicy=resizecrop&rw=297&ra=fit) ![TV - The Leatherback Lodge!! Channel front home! (North Myrtle Beach)](https://images.trvl-media.com/lodging/38000000/37860000/37854000/37853976/e8992f98.jpg?impolicy=resizecrop&rw=297&ra=fit) ![Fridge, microwave, oven, stovetop - The Leatherback Lodge!! Channel front home! (North Myrtle Beach)](https://images.trvl-media.com/lodging/38000000/37860000/37854000/37853976/ca92f6ca.jpg?impolicy=resizecrop&rw=297&ra=fit) ![Fridge, microwave, oven, stovetop - The Leatherback Lodge!! Channel front home! (North Myrtle Beach)](https://images.trvl-media.com/lodging/38000000/37860000/37854000/37853976/a7ef159d.jpg?impolicy=resizecrop&rw=297&ra=fit) - Overview - Location - Amenities - Policies Located in Cherry Grove, Leatherback Lodge is a haven for ocean lovers and adventure seekers. Enjoy the tranquil atmosphere of having your own private boat ramp, floating dock, and fishing off the deck over water. With its proximity to North Myrtle Beach shopping and dining spots, this lodge offers both relaxation and excitement. ## Reviews 10 Exceptional ### Entire home 4 bedrooms2 bathroomsSleeps 121700 sq ft ## Popular amenities - Kitchen - Washer - Dryer - Air conditioning - Outdoor Space ## Add dates for prices Check-in Check-out Travellers ## About this property ### Entire place You'll have the entire home to yourself and will only share it with other guests in your party. ### The Leatherback Lodge!! Channel front home! Leatherback Lodge is a tasteful balance of all that Cherry Grove has to offer, situated just one block from the beautiful Atlantic Ocean and directly on a saltwater tidal channel connecting you to Hog Inlet. Take a casual stroll on the beach in the morning and fish off your own private dock for sunset!!! Leatherback Lodge features 4 large bedrooms and 2 and a half baths, stainless appliances and a large family dining table enjoy a private boat ramp, deck over water and private floating dock!!! The space Very rare to have your own private boat ramp, perfect for an active lifestyle, kayak or paddle board directly from the back yard. So close to the ocean you can hear the crashing waves!!! Short drive to all the shopping and dining that North Myrtle Beach has to offer!! Leatherback Lodge sleeps 12 and feature a large dining table to accommodate all guests. Freshly renovated with new flat screen smart TVs and new outdoor lounging spaces. Guest access Every room except the storage area below which contains the items for the "adventure Package" which can be purchased separately see the additional notes section. Other things to note If you are more of the adventurous type we also have the “Adventure Package” for an additional $399 per stay, it includes : 2 paddle boards, 2 kayaks, 4 Beach Bikes, 2 Surfboards, 4 Boogie Boards, 4 Beach Chairs , 4 Fishing poles, 1 Cast net, 1 crab trap, 2 Beach Umbrellas , 2 Coolers and a Beach wagon for easy transport to the beach! Contact Owner for add on’s by texting ## Property amenities ### Beach - Beach loungers - Beach towels ### Internet - Available in the house: WiFi ### Parking and transportation - Car recommended - Parking on site ### Kitchen - Blender - Coffee/tea maker - Cookware, dishware, and utensils - Dishwasher - Ice maker - Microwave - Oven - Paper towels - Refrigerator - Spices - Stovetop - Toaster ### Dining - Dining table ### Bedrooms - 4 bedrooms - Bedsheets provided ### Bathroom - 2 bathrooms - Bathtub or shower - Hair dryer - Shampoo - Shower - Soap - Toilet paper - Towels provided ### Living spaces - Dining table - Living room ### Entertainment - Games - TV with cable/satellite channels ### Outdoor areas - Garden - Outdoor furniture - Patio ### Laundry - Laundry facilities - Washing machine ### Comfort - Air conditioning - Heating ### Pets - No pets allowed ### Suitability/Accessibility - Smoking not allowed - Note from host: Absolutely NO smoking ### Location highlights - Near an outlet shopping mall - Near the sea - On the waterfront ### Things to do - Bicycles - Bodyboard - Golf - Kayak - Paddleboard - Fishing nearby - Golfing nearby - Jet skiing nearby - Kayaking nearby - Motor boating nearby - Parasailing nearby - Sailing nearby - Surfing/bodyboarding nearby - Swimming nearby - Wildlife walks nearby - Windsurfing nearby ### Safety features - Carbon monoxide detector not reported (host has not indicated whether there is a carbon monoxide detector on the property; 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No animals due to severe allergies ### Pets Pets not allowed ### Children and extra beds Children are welcome ### Events No events allowed ### Smoking Smoking is not permitted Absolutely NO smoking ## Important information ### You need to know Extra-person charges may apply and vary depending on property policy Government-issued photo identification and a credit card, debit card, or cash deposit may be required at check-in for incidental charges Special requests are subject to availability upon check-in and may incur additional charges; special requests cannot be guaranteed Onsite parties or group events are strictly prohibited Host has not indicated whether there is a carbon monoxide detector on the property; consider bringing a portable detector with you on the trip Host has indicated there is a smoke detector on the property Safety features at this property include a first aid kit and a deadbolt lock This property is managed through our partner, Vrbo. You will receive an email from Vrbo with a link to a Vrbo account, where you can change or cancel your reservation ### We should mention A car is recommended for transportation to and from this property ### Property is also known as The Leatherback Channel Front The Leatherback Lodge!!book Your Summer Vacation!! The Leatherback Lodge!! Channel Front Home! North Myrtle Beach ## About the area Located in North Myrtle Beach, this vacation home is on the waterfront. Shoppers can check out Barefoot Landing, while everyone can enjoy the natural beauty of North Myrtle Beach Beaches and Myrtle Beach Beaches. OD Pavilion Amusement Park and Molten Mountain are also worth visiting. Looking to get your feet wet? Jet skiing, kayaking and parasailing adventures can be found near the property. [Visit our North Myrtle Beach travel guide](https://www.expedia.ca/North-Myrtle-Beach.dx8929) [View more Vacation homes in North Myrtle Beach](https://www.expedia.ca/North-Myrtle-Beach-Private-Vacation-Homes.d8929-aaPrivateVacationHomes.Travel-Guide-Accommodation) ![Map](https://maps.googleapis.com/maps/api/staticmap?&size=660x330&map_id=3b266eb50d2997c6&zoom=13&markers=icon:https%3A%2F%2Fa.travel-assets.com%2Ftravel-assets-manager%2Feg-maps%2Fproperty.png%7C33.83897%2C-78.61809&channel=expedia-HotelInformation&maptype=roadmap&scale=1&key=AIzaSyCYjQus5kCufOpSj932jFoR_AJiL9yiwOw&signature=PQy8p042BR3GgDQvMigSAh7blzw=) North Myrtle Beach, SC ### What's nearby - ![Waterfront scene of the wooden boardwalk path and the luxury resort buildings in North Myrtle Beach, South Carolina. Picture taken on Christmas Day, 2021](https://images.trvl-media.com/place/553248635976496794/9f411e99-c137-481b-a4a3-821e201f9b51.jpg?impolicy=resizecrop&rw=115.61&rh=65.03&ra=fit&q=high) North Myrtle Beach Beaches 6 min walk \- 0.5 km - ![Cherry Grove Beach](https://images.trvl-media.com/place/8929/61e35ceb-3680-4647-89e8-7f184d33a0b7.jpg?impolicy=resizecrop&rw=115.61&rh=65.03&ra=fit&q=high) Cherry Grove Beach 10 min walk \- 0.9 km - ![NorthMyrtleBeach_CherryGrovePier_0004](https://images.trvl-media.com/place/6265938/23187f56-bda0-488c-ae89-ebf9790ca28e.jpg?impolicy=resizecrop&rw=115.61&rh=65.03&ra=fit&q=high) Cherry Grove Fishing Pier 3 min drive \- 2.0 km - ![NorthMyrtleBeach_RussellBurgessCoastalPreserve_553248635023517460_0004](https://images.trvl-media.com/place/553248635023517460/ff05f1f0-3cc0-492f-891a-3136292ece52.jpg?impolicy=resizecrop&rw=115.61&rh=65.03&ra=fit&q=high) Russell Burgess Coastal Preserve 3 min drive \- 2.0 km - Heritage Shores Nature Preserve 9 min walk \- 0.8 km ### Getting around - North Myrtle Beach, SC (CRE-Grand Strand) 13 min drive ### Restaurants - McDonald's 10 min drive - Starbucks 10 min drive - Circle K 10 min drive - Capt Juel's Hurricane Restaurant 13 min drive - Captain Archie's 8 min drive ## Frequently asked questions ### Is The Leatherback Lodge!! Channel front home! pet-friendly? ### How much is parking? ### What time is check-in at The Leatherback Lodge!! Channel front home!? ### What time is check-out at The Leatherback Lodge!! Channel front home!? ### Where is The Leatherback Lodge!! Channel front home! located? ## Have a question? Beta Get instant answers with AI powered search of property information and reviews. Ask a question ## The Leatherback Lodge!! Channel front home! Reviews ## Reviews ### Exceptional All reviews shown are from real guest experiences. Only travellers who have booked a stay with us can submit a review. We verify reviews according to our guidelines and publish all reviews, positive or negative. [More information](https://www.expedia.ca/lp/b/content-guidelines) 10 - Excellent 56 8 - Good 0 6 - Okay 0 4 - Poor 0 2 - Terrible 0 ### 9.8 Cleanliness ### 10 Location ### 10 Property conditions & facilities ## Reviews Verified ### 10/10 Excellent #### Michelle T. Oct 16, 2023 Liked: Cleanliness, check-in, communication, location, listing accuracy #### Wonderful Getaway The house was amazing, very clean, very comfortable. Beautiful views! We had a great time! ##### Michelle T. Stayed 5 nights in Sep 2023 Verified ### 10/10 Excellent #### Dawn B. Sep 18, 2024 Liked: Cleanliness, check-in, communication, location, listing accuracy #### Awesome home!! Had a great time staying at the Leatherback Lodge! Great location. Hosts were very prompt with messaging and really makes their house feel like a home away from. Would definitely stay here again! ##### Dawn B. Stayed 7 nights in Aug 2024 Verified ### 10/10 Excellent #### Douglas W. Nov 12, 2023 Liked: Cleanliness, check-in, communication, location, listing accuracy #### Great Perfect location, clean and cozy house! ##### Douglas W. Stayed 3 nights in Nov 2023 Verified ### 10/10 Excellent #### Deb V. Sep 18, 2024 Liked: Cleanliness, check-in, communication, location, listing accuracy #### Everything We Needed The host was responsive to our communications and with adding the Adventure Package we had everything we needed to enjoy the beach for the week. ##### Deb V. Stayed 7 nights in Sep 2024 Verified ### 10/10 Excellent #### Sarah G. Sep 24, 2024 Liked: Cleanliness, check-in, communication, location, listing accuracy #### Family Beach Getaway We loved the house and location. It was just as described. Owners were wonderful as well. They checked on us several times! You will not be disappointed. ##### Sarah G. Stayed 5 nights in Sep 2024 Verified ### 10/10 Excellent #### Jill C. Jan 3, 2025 Liked: Cleanliness, check-in, communication, location, listing accuracy #### What an amazing home From the moment we walked in it was as if we were home. The house is so welcoming the open floor plan and decor is just perfect for our family vacation. The adventure package was a great bonus. Thank you so much for our wonderful time here in Myrtle Beach ##### Jill C. Stayed 7 nights in Dec 2024 Verified ### 10/10 Excellent #### Mary C. Nov 13, 2024 Liked: Cleanliness, check-in, communication, location, listing accuracy #### Felt like home This house could not be anymore perfect for us. The host provided everything we needed. Comfortable and inviting. ##### Mary C. Stayed 13 nights in Oct 2024 Verified ### 10/10 Excellent #### Catherine A. Apr 6, 2024 Liked: Cleanliness, check-in, communication, location, listing accuracy #### Great beach getaway! Beautiful channel home with spacious entertaining areas inside and outside. Nicely remodeled interior with lots of natural light, updated kitchen, and bathrooms. Pictures online don’t do it justice! ##### Catherine A. Stayed 5 nights in Apr 2024 Verified ### 10/10 Excellent #### Beth Z. Aug 18, 2024 Liked: Cleanliness, check-in, communication, location, listing accuracy #### Family vacation This home by far exceeded our expectations. The location was an easy walk to the beach. the back deck and dock were a big hit with the kids, excited to fish. We vacation every year with extended family and I’ve never stayed at a home that offered so many amenities. We will definitely stay here again. Thank you for sharing your home with our family ##### Beth Z. Stayed 6 nights in Aug 2024 Verified ### 10/10 Excellent #### Verified traveller Aug 5, 2023 Liked: Cleanliness, check-in, communication, location, listing accuracy #### Home away from home My family and I had a wonderful time in this home, it was the perfect location with so much to do. The home was very clean and tidy and updated. The beds were comfortable and weather it was sunny or raining there was no lack of activities. Very short walking distance to the beach. The owner was very much available for any questions. I would definitely recommend this for a wonderful getaway. ##### Verified traveller Stayed 6 nights in Jul 2023 Verified ### 10/10 Excellent #### shawn Aug 18, 2024 Liked: Cleanliness, amenities, property conditions & facilities, communication The house was beautiful and clean! It had all you needed from a fully equipped kitchen, games/puzzles, and tons of stuff to keep our kids busy outside. The beach was a short walk down the street and easily accessible. The adventure package was worth every penny, the kids used the bikes and kayaks several times. They spent every evening fishing! The hosts were absolutely wonderful and accommodating! Thank you so much for a wonderful vacation! We can't wait to come back!! ##### shawn Stayed 7 nights in Aug 2024 Verified ### 10/10 Excellent #### Dennis J. Oct 26, 2025 Liked: Cleanliness, check-in, communication, location, listing accuracy very nice place and very clean ##### Dennis J. Stayed 7 nights in Oct 2025 Verified ### 10/10 Excellent #### Bridget F. Dec 4, 2019 Liked: Cleanliness, check-in, communication, location, listing accuracy #### Great stay! We enjoyed this comfortable location for our family’s Thanksgiving vacation! ##### Bridget F. Stayed 6 nights in Nov 2019 Verified ### 10/10 Excellent #### Dustin B. Dec 19, 2025 Liked: Cleanliness, check-in, communication, location, listing accuracy Great communication, location , nothing negative to add ##### Dustin B. Stayed 12 nights in Dec 2025 Verified ### 10/10 Excellent #### Verified traveller Jun 21, 2025 Liked: Cleanliness, check-in, communication, location, listing accuracy #### Good location and good host 4 bedroom 2 bath that was perfect for group. Quiet area and. Convenient to beach ##### Verified traveller Stayed 7 nights in Jun 2025 Verified ### 10/10 Excellent #### Tami S. Jun 28, 2025 Liked: Cleanliness, check-in, communication, location, listing accuracy #### Great house and location Stephanie was great to work with. Adventure package was a great addition! ##### Tami S. Stayed 7 nights in Jun 2025 Verified ### 10/10 Excellent #### Tennille L. Apr 28, 2025 Liked: Cleanliness, check-in, communication, location, listing accuracy #### Perfect Beach House The Leatherback Lodge was a wonderful house to stay in. Very roomy, nicely decorated, stocked with anything you could want or need. All of the outdoor living spaces are perfect and the inside is very comfortable. We would definitely stay here again and highly recommend it to any one looking for a great house. ##### Tennille L. Stayed 7 nights in Apr 2025 Verified ### 10/10 Excellent #### Jeff S. Jul 23, 2025 Liked: Cleanliness, check-in, communication, location, listing accuracy Excellent property which worked perfectly for our family vacation. Both the indoor and outdoor areas were great for entertaining and relaxing. The available Adventure Package provided everything needed to enjoy the canal and the beach. The owners were very responsive and communicative. The house is in a great location and nice area of Cherry Grove. ##### Jeff S. Stayed 9 nights in Jul 2025 Verified ### 10/10 Excellent #### MKF Aug 18, 2023 Liked: Cleanliness, check-in, communication, location, listing accuracy #### Vary relaxing!!! Very beautiful property we will return 1 day!!! ##### MKF Stayed 7 nights in Jul 2023 Verified ### 10/10 Excellent #### Pam H. Oct 5, 2025 Liked: Cleanliness, check-in, communication, location, listing accuracy Work on your laundry room but everything else was fabulous ##### Pam H. Stayed 8 nights in Sep 2025 Verified ### 10/10 Excellent #### Jacqueline K. Jul 20, 2024 Liked: Cleanliness, check-in, communication, location, listing accuracy #### Good time Had a great time ##### Jacqueline K. Stayed 7 nights in Jul 2024 Verified ### 10/10 Excellent #### Donna S. Sep 24, 2023 Liked: Cleanliness, check-in, communication, location, listing accuracy #### Great Home We vacation in Cherry grove every year! This house was a great find. Beautiful decor with great little touches. We would love to come back next year! ##### Donna S. Stayed 7 nights in Sep 2023 Verified ### 10/10 Excellent #### Tracy T. Apr 27, 2023 Liked: Cleanliness, check-in, communication, location, listing accuracy #### Wonderful place The leatherback Lodge was awesome! It had a nice and clean living area and a great outdoor area as well with seating and a dock overlooking the water. The bikes were a huge hit and we got the adventure package so we had everything we needed for a great vacation! ##### Tracy T. Stayed 7 nights in Apr 2023 Verified ### 10/10 Excellent #### Cristian O. May 17, 2023 Liked: Cleanliness, check-in, communication, location, listing accuracy #### I have a wonderful family trip Excellent communication ##### Cristian O. Stayed 6 nights in May 2023 Verified ### 10/10 Excellent #### Joel M. Jul 31, 2025 Liked: Cleanliness, check-in, communication, location, listing accuracy Beautiful property. Well appointed. Clean. Fully stocked. Thoughtful touches. Enjoyed back deck off canal and proximity to beach. Worked great for our family to have multiple places to eat, play games and hang out. Host was responsive and helpful. Leatherback Lodge was enjoyable ##### Joel M. 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