Title: Super 8 by Wyndham Chicago IL (Motel) - Latest Reviews, Deals & Photos 2026 - Expedia.ca [See all properties](http://www.expedia.ca/Hotel-Search?regionId=&adults=2&children=&sort=RECOMMENDED&useRewards=false&semdtl=&userIntent=&vip=false) # Super 8 by Wyndham Chicago IL This Chicago hotel near Lake Michigan and Loyola University offers convenient parking and WiFi for travelers to stay connected. ## Photo gallery for Super 8 by Wyndham Chicago IL ![Miscellaneous - Super 8 by Wyndham Chicago IL (Chicago)](https://images.trvl-media.com/lodging/1000000/910000/906900/906829/dfa08dc0.jpg?impolicy=resizecrop&rw=598&ra=fit) ![Lobby - Super 8 by Wyndham Chicago IL (Chicago)](https://images.trvl-media.com/lodging/1000000/910000/906900/906829/5781dcb5.jpg?impolicy=resizecrop&rw=297&ra=fit) ![Room, 1 Queen Bed, Non Smoking - Super 8 by Wyndham Chicago IL (Chicago)](https://images.trvl-media.com/lodging/1000000/910000/906900/906829/5ead22ab.jpg?impolicy=resizecrop&rw=297&ra=fit) ![Miscellaneous - Super 8 by Wyndham Chicago IL (Chicago)](https://images.trvl-media.com/lodging/1000000/910000/906900/906829/3d9eb2ce.jpg?impolicy=resizecrop&rw=297&ra=fit) ![Room, 1 King Bed, Non Smoking (Mobility) | Bathroom - Super 8 by Wyndham Chicago IL (Chicago)](https://images.trvl-media.com/lodging/1000000/910000/906900/906829/90a11a31.jpg?impolicy=resizecrop&rw=297&ra=fit) - Overview - Rooms - Location - Policies Super 8 by Wyndham Chicago IL provides a practical home base near Loyola University Chicago with in-room WiFi keeping guests connected. Travelers appreciate the convenient parking, luggage storage options, elevator access, and front desk staff available around the clock. ## Reviews 7.2 Good ## Popular amenities - Free WiFi - Air conditioning - Housekeeping - 24/7 front desk ## Room options ### Check availability for these dates Tonight [Feb. 25 - Feb. 26](https://www.expedia.ca/Hotel-Search?startDate=2026-02-25&endDate=2026-02-26&selected=906829&PinnedHotelID=906829&HadPinnedHotel=true®ionId=-1&adults=2) [](https://www.expedia.ca/Hotel-Search?startDate=2026-02-25&endDate=2026-02-26&selected=906829&PinnedHotelID=906829&HadPinnedHotel=true®ionId=-1&adults=2) Tomorrow [Feb. 26 - Feb. 27](https://www.expedia.ca/Hotel-Search?startDate=2026-02-26&endDate=2026-02-27&selected=906829&PinnedHotelID=906829&HadPinnedHotel=true®ionId=-1&adults=2) [](https://www.expedia.ca/Hotel-Search?startDate=2026-02-26&endDate=2026-02-27&selected=906829&PinnedHotelID=906829&HadPinnedHotel=true®ionId=-1&adults=2) This weekend [Feb. 27 - Mar. 1](https://www.expedia.ca/Hotel-Search?startDate=2026-02-27&endDate=2026-03-01&selected=906829&PinnedHotelID=906829&HadPinnedHotel=true®ionId=-1&adults=2) [](https://www.expedia.ca/Hotel-Search?startDate=2026-02-27&endDate=2026-03-01&selected=906829&PinnedHotelID=906829&HadPinnedHotel=true®ionId=-1&adults=2) Next weekend [Mar. 6 - Mar. 8](https://www.expedia.ca/Hotel-Search?startDate=2026-03-06&endDate=2026-03-08&selected=906829&PinnedHotelID=906829&HadPinnedHotel=true®ionId=-1&adults=2) [](https://www.expedia.ca/Hotel-Search?startDate=2026-03-06&endDate=2026-03-08&selected=906829&PinnedHotelID=906829&HadPinnedHotel=true®ionId=-1&adults=2) All rooms 1 bed 2 beds Showing 5 of 5 rooms ### View all photos for Room, 1 King Bed, Non Smoking ![Desk, iron/ironing board, free cribs/infant beds, rollaway beds](https://images.trvl-media.com/lodging/1000000/910000/906900/906829/05326165.jpg?impolicy=fcrop&w=1200&h=800&quality=medium) ### Room, 1 King Bed, Non Smoking 8.0 Very good 4 reviews ### Highlights Air conditioning Free cribs/infant beds Refrigerator TV Microwave Coffee/tea maker Satellite channels Iron/ironing board - 210 sq ft - Sleeps 3 - 1 King Bed ### View all photos for Room, 2 Queen Beds, Non Smoking ![Room, 2 Queen Beds, Non Smoking](https://images.trvl-media.com/lodging/1000000/910000/906900/906829/9e9ac373.jpg?impolicy=fcrop&w=1200&h=800&quality=medium) ### Room, 2 Queen Beds, Non Smoking 8.0 Very good 7 reviews ### Highlights Air conditioning Free cribs/infant beds Refrigerator TV Microwave Coffee/tea maker Satellite channels Iron/ironing board - 210 sq ft - Sleeps 4 - 2 Queen Beds ### View all photos for Room, 1 King Bed, Non Smoking (Mobility) ![Desk, iron/ironing board, free cribs/infant beds, rollaway beds](https://images.trvl-media.com/lodging/1000000/910000/906900/906829/05326165.jpg?impolicy=fcrop&w=1200&h=800&quality=medium) ### Room, 1 King Bed, Non Smoking (Mobility) 7.0 Good 2 reviews ### Highlights Air conditioning Free cribs/infant beds Refrigerator TV Microwave Coffee/tea maker Satellite channels Iron/ironing board - 204 sq ft - Sleeps 2 - 1 King Bed ### View all photos for Room, 1 Queen Bed, Non Smoking ![Room, 1 Queen Bed, Non Smoking](https://images.trvl-media.com/lodging/1000000/910000/906900/906829/5ead22ab.jpg?impolicy=fcrop&w=1200&h=800&quality=medium) ### Room, 1 Queen Bed, Non Smoking ### Highlights Air conditioning Free cribs/infant beds Refrigerator TV Microwave Coffee/tea maker Satellite channels Iron/ironing board - 210 sq ft - Sleeps 2 - 1 Queen Bed ### View all photos for Room, Multiple Beds, Non Smoking (2 King Beds) ![Desk, iron/ironing board, free cribs/infant beds, rollaway beds](https://images.trvl-media.com/lodging/1000000/910000/906900/906829/d49757e9.jpg?impolicy=fcrop&w=1200&h=800&quality=medium) ### Room, Multiple Beds, Non Smoking (2 King Beds) ### Highlights Air conditioning Free cribs/infant beds Refrigerator TV Microwave Coffee/tea maker Satellite channels Iron/ironing board - 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More rewards for more adventures! [Sign in](https://www.expedia.ca/login?ckoflag=0&uurl=e3id%3Dredr%26rurl%3D%2FChicago-Hotels-Super-8-By-Wyndham-Chicago-IL.h906829.Hotel-Information)[Sign up, it's free](https://www.expedia.ca/signup?enable_registration=true&uurl=e3id%3Dredr%26rurl%3D%2FChicago-Hotels-Super-8-By-Wyndham-Chicago-IL.h906829.Hotel-Information) ## About the area Located in Rogers Park, a neighborhood in Chicago, Super 8 by Wyndham Chicago IL is near a metro station and on a lake. Chicago Theatre and Art Institute of Chicago are cultural highlights, and travelers looking to shop may want to visit Michigan Avenue and Navy Pier. Looking to enjoy an event or a game? See what's going on at Wrigley Field or United Center. [Visit our Chicago travel guide](https://www.expedia.ca/Chicago.dx178248) [View more Motels in Chicago](https://www.expedia.ca/Chicago-Motels.d178248-aaMotels.Travel-Guide-Accommodation) ![Map](https://maps.googleapis.com/maps/api/staticmap?&size=660x330&map_id=3b266eb50d2997c6&zoom=13&markers=icon:https%3A%2F%2Fa.travel-assets.com%2Ftravel-assets-manager%2Feg-maps%2Fproperty.png%7C42.01420%2C-87.66466&channel=expedia-HotelInformation&maptype=roadmap&scale=1&key=AIzaSyCYjQus5kCufOpSj932jFoR_AJiL9yiwOw&signature=gTo6oAHvH5cXtyBq-DOvopsywsk=) 7300 North Sheridan Road, Chicago, IL, 60626 ### What's nearby - ![Rogers Park 2](https://images.trvl-media.com/place/6182907/4276828e-4f07-4814-87a3-c49457ea136f.jpg?impolicy=resizecrop&rw=115.61&rh=65.03&ra=fit&q=high) Loyola University Chicago 16 min walk \- 1.4 km - Emil Bach House 5 min walk \- 0.4 km - Loyola Beach 6 min walk \- 0.6 km - Howard Beach 8 min walk \- 0.7 km - North Shore Beach Park 17 min walk \- 1.5 km ### Getting around - Jarvis Station 6 min walk - Chicago Rogers Park Station 17 min walk - Chicago O'Hare Intl. Airport (ORD) 46 min drive ### Restaurants - J.B. Alberto's Pizza 11 min walk - Caribbean American Bakery 11 min walk - The Common Cup 12 min walk - Taqueria Los Portales 11 min walk - Le Piano 10 min walk ## About this property ### Super 8 by Wyndham Chicago IL Motel near Lake Michigan Close to Loyola University Chicago, Super 8 by Wyndham Chicago IL has plenty to offer. Guests can connect to free in-room WiFi. You'll also find perks like: - Free self parking - A 24-hour front desk, an elevator, and luggage storage - ATM/banking services Room features All guestrooms at Super 8 by Wyndham Chicago IL offer comforts such as air conditioning, in addition to amenities like free WiFi. Extra amenities include: - Rollaway/extra beds (surcharge) and free cribs/infant beds - Refrigerators, microwaves, and irons/ironing boards - 39-inch TVs with satellite channels - Coffee/tea makers, daily housekeeping, and desks ## Similar properties ![Standard Room, 2 Double Beds, Non Smoking](https://images.trvl-media.com/lodging/9000000/8250000/8245900/8245844/e5258539.jpg?impolicy=fcrop&w=469&h=201&p=1&q=medium) ### Rodeway Inn Chicago North Shore - Lincolnwood West Ridge - Parking included - Free WiFi - Air conditioning - Housekeeping 6.6 744 reviews CA $104 CA $122 total includes taxes & fees Mar 26 - Mar 27 [](https://www.expedia.ca/Hotel-Search?startDate=2026-03-26&endDate=2026-03-27&selected=8245844&PinnedHotelID=8245844&HadPinnedHotel=true®ionId=-1&adults=2) ![Standard Room, 1 Queen Bed, Non Smoking](https://images.trvl-media.com/lodging/14000000/13280000/13278500/13278499/0b2658b4.jpg?impolicy=fcrop&w=469&h=201&p=1&q=medium) ### Rodeway Inn Chicago - Evanston North Park - Parking included - 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Available in all rooms: Free WiFi - Available in some public areas: Free WiFi ### Parking and transportation - Height restrictions apply for onsite parking - Free covered self parking on site - Limited onsite self parking (max 1 space per unit) ### Family friendly - In-room crib - In-room microwave - In-room refrigerator - Rollaway/extra bed (surcharge) ### Conveniences - 24-hour front desk - ATM - Luggage storage ### Guest services - Housekeeping (daily) ### Outdoors - On a lake ### Accessibility - If you have requests for specific accessibility needs, please contact the property using the information on the reservation confirmation received after booking. - Elevator - Wheelchair accessible (may have limitations) - Wheelchair-accessible path of travel - Wheelchair-accessible path to elevator ### More - 4 floors - Designated smoking areas ## Room amenities ### Bedroom - Bedsheets provided - Free crib - Rollaway/extra bed (surcharge) ### Bathroom - Hair dryer (on request) - Towels provided ### Entertainment - 39-inch TV with satellite channels ### Food and drink - Coffee/tea maker - Microwave - Refrigerator ### More - Air conditioning (climate-controlled) - Desk - Free local calls - Iron/ironing board ## Policies ### Check-in Check-in start time: 3 PM; Check-in end time: midnight Early check-in subject to availability Early check-in fee: USD 50.00 Contactless check-in available Minimum check-in age: 21 ### Check-out Check-out before 11 AM Late check-out subject to availability Late check-out fee: USD 50.00 ### Special check-in instructions Front desk staff will greet guests on arrival at the property Information provided by the property may be translated using automated translation tools ### Access methods Staffed front desk ### Pets Pets not allowed (service animals are welcome, and are exempt from fees) ### Children and extra beds Children are welcome 2 children, up to the age of 17 years, can stay for free if using existing beds when occupying the parent or guardian's room Rollaway/extra beds are available for USD 20.0 per night Free cribs are available on request at the property ### Property payment types ## Important information ### Optional extras - Early check-in fee: USD 50.00 (subject to availability) - Late check-out fee: USD 50.00 (subject to availability) - Rollaway bed fee: USD 20.0 per night The above list may not be comprehensive. Fees and deposits may not include tax and are subject to change. ### You need to know Extra-person charges may apply and vary depending on property policy Government-issued photo identification and a credit card, debit card, or cash deposit may be required at check-in for incidental charges Special requests are subject to availability upon check-in and may incur additional charges; special requests cannot be guaranteed Minimum Spring Break check-in age is 21 years old This property accepts credit cards; cash is not accepted Safety features at this property include a smoke detector and a security system This property affirms that it follows the cleaning and disinfection practices of Count on Us (Wyndham) Masks are required at the property for guests without COVID-19 vaccination ### We should mention Only registered guests are allowed in the guestrooms Parking height restrictions apply ### Property is also known as Chicago Super 8 Super 8 Chicago Super 8 Hotel Chicago Super 8 Chicago Motel Super 8 Wyndham Chicago IL Motel Super 8 Wyndham Chicago IL Super 8 Chicago / Loyola University Hotel Evanston Chicago Super 8 Super Eight Chicago Chicago Super Eight Super 8 by Wyndham Chicago IL Motel Super 8 by Wyndham Chicago IL Chicago Super 8 by Wyndham Chicago IL Motel Chicago ## Frequently asked questions ### Is Super 8 by Wyndham Chicago IL pet-friendly? ### How much is parking? ### What time is check-in at Super 8 by Wyndham Chicago IL? ### What time is check-out at Super 8 by Wyndham Chicago IL? ### Where is Super 8 by Wyndham Chicago IL located? ## Have a question? Beta Get instant answers with AI powered search of property information and reviews. Ask a question ## Reviews ## Super 8 by Wyndham Chicago IL Reviews 7.2 ### Good All reviews shown are from real guest experiences. Only travellers who have booked a stay with us can submit a review. We verify reviews according to our guidelines and publish all reviews, positive or negative.[More information](https://www.expedia.ca/lp/b/content-guidelines) ### 7.6 Cleanliness ### 7.8 Location ### 8.2 Staff & service ### 6.6 Property conditions & facilities 10 - Excellent 118 8 - Good 194 6 - Okay 137 4 - Poor 58 2 - Terrible 35 ## Reviews ### 10/10 Excellent #### ANTHONY Jun 30, 2023 Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service, property conditions & facilities Great place for what I needed - a nice room close to where I needed to go the following day. Add in friendly staff and I was very pleased - thank you. ##### ANTHONY Stayed 1 night in Jun 2023 ### 10/10 Excellent #### Richard Jul 5, 2023 Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service, property conditions & facilities nice for a super 8 ##### Richard Stayed 1 night in Jul 2023 ### 8/10 Good #### Emma May 20, 2023 Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service, amenities, property conditions & facilities Staff was very friendly and professional. Property was clean and definitely felt it was worth what we had paid. ##### Emma Stayed 2 nights in May 2023 ### 8/10 Good #### Julie Jul 11, 2023 Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service, property conditions & facilities Had a good nights rest ##### Julie Stayed 1 night in Jul 2023 ### 8/10 Good #### Rheatha Oct 16, 2022 Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service, property conditions & facilities, room comfort Front desk guy was very polite.great customer service 2 me and my guest!😁 ##### Rheatha Stayed 1 night in Oct 2022 ### 6/10 Okay #### geo Jul 2, 2023 Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service I like how they didn't charge us for parking. ##### geo Stayed 1 night in Jun 2023 ### 6/10 Okay #### Robert Nov 27, 2022 Liked: Room comfort Disliked: Staff & service #### Good Location Hotel is in Rogers Park and is close to the Jarvis Red Line 'L' stop. Hotel advertised a simple breakfast but the only thing provided was an in-room coffee maker. Hotel was adequate for our needs. ##### Robert Stayed 3 nights in Nov 2022 ### 6/10 Okay #### ANTHONY Jul 20, 2022 Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service Got the reservation last minute. Was a good value for what I needed ##### ANTHONY Stayed 1 night in Jul 2022 ### 8/10 Good #### Kevin Jul 28, 2022 Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service Convenient to the L train and Downtown Chicago (Wrigley Field, Millennium Park on the same red line so no transfers) Basic rooms, quiet, and semi-secure parking on main level. Recommend! ##### Kevin Stayed 2 nights in Jul 2022 ### 4/10 Poor #### Linda Sep 27, 2022 Liked: Staff & service Disliked: Amenities, property conditions & facilities The staff was extremely friendly and accomodating, but the property itself, although clean is older and in need of update ##### Linda Stayed 3 nights in Sep 2022 ### 10/10 Excellent #### June Jun 21, 2023 Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service, property conditions & facilities It’s about about a 20 minute walk to Loyola which was not terrible I felt safe in the walk there and back. Check in was easy and staff is very nice I was able to leave my car on premises while visiting the university which was a plus for me. ##### June Stayed 1 night in Jun 2023 ### 10/10 Excellent #### Jason Jun 14, 2023 Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service, property conditions & facilities, room comfort #### Super Duper 8 Affordable rooms for Chicago with free parking a blocak and a half from Lake Michigan, need I say more? ##### Jason Stayed 2 nights in Jun 2023 ### 10/10 Excellent #### Verified traveller Aug 8, 2022 Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service, property conditions & facilities, room comfort #### Looks can be deceiving Outside of the building looks like a dump so I got a little nervous when I pulled up but the room was much nicer. ##### Verified traveller Stayed 1 night in Aug 2022 ### 6/10 Okay #### Martin Jul 17, 2023 Liked: Staff & service Disliked: Cleanliness The entrance to the room spelled like a giant cigarette pit ##### Martin Stayed 3 nights in Jul 2023 ### 4/10 Poor #### Michael Nov 7, 2022 Liked: Staff & service Disliked: Amenities, property conditions & facilities The staff were very nice, and helpful, but the building is quite old and not up to date. ##### Michael ### 6/10 Okay #### Matt Sep 11, 2022 Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service, property conditions & facilities Property is in nice location. I needed two days at Loyola. 4 minutes. Free secure parking. Seems to be upgraded to all new bedding towels etc. quiet rooms. Little expensive for what it is. I was just looking for a safe place to lay my head. Staff was very nice and competent! ##### Matt Stayed 2 nights in Sep 2022 ### 2/10 Terrible #### Verified traveller Mar 12, 2023 Disliked: Cleanliness, staff & service, property conditions & facilities, room comfort #### Homeless hotel There was no hot water or water pressure. The hotel is used as a homeless shelter. I dont have a problem with that but the homeless people was begging for money all the time ##### Verified traveller Stayed 1 night in Mar 2023 ### 8/10 Good #### Carrie Jun 20, 2023 Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service The hotel had parking, tho not for a large vehicle. The residential neighborhood was OK. It was any easy 3 block walk to a beach shore. It was easy to get around from the hotel. The hotel was clean though pretty old. The beds were comfy and everything worked except the security lock on the door and the shower was either cold or hot. It was also quiet. ##### Carrie Stayed 4 nights in Jun 2023 ### 8/10 Good #### Gary E. Jan 30, 2023 Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service, property conditions & facilities, room comfort #### Nice stay except for next room noise. It was all good except for loud partying in adjoining room at 2am. Census was low. Don't know why guests were not spread out . ##### Gary E. Stayed 1 night in Jan 2023 ### 6/10 Okay #### Kenneth Jun 29, 2023 Liked: Staff & service Disliked: Cleanliness, property conditions & facilities The gentleman that checked me is in was very courteous and helpful. But the hotel needs a complete renovation. The toilet is for pre-schoolers, the shower belongs in an RV. And the electrical things like lights and fans are a disaster waiting to happen. ##### Kenneth Stayed 1 night in Jun 2023 ### 6/10 Okay #### Jennifer Nov 6, 2022 Paper thin walls, could hear the neighbors up talking all night. Reeked of weed and cigarettes. ##### Jennifer Stayed 1 night in Nov 2022 ### 10/10 Excellent #### Evelyn May 29, 2023 Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service, property conditions & facilities A quiet neighborhood in Chicago, within walking distance of a beautiful sand beach on the lake, is hard to come by. This hotel provides clean, budget-quality lodging and covers your basic needs to sleep and shower, leaving you free to explore the wonders of Chicago. Free parking is included. Nothing snazzy or fancy here. It is a five-minute walk to the lake-side beach/park, the "L". and the nearest coffee shop or pub/eatery. My husband and I stayed for four nights and found NOTHING to complain about! ##### Evelyn Stayed 4 nights in May 2023 ### 4/10 Poor #### Inessa Oct 26, 2022 It’s a very cheap but overpriced motel, for nearly $200 per night I hoped it will be better. Nobody came to clean the room in 3 days, and the train ride to town is almost 1 hour. ##### Inessa Stayed 3 nights in Oct 2022 ### 8/10 Good #### Sterling Sep 12, 2022 Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service Property is DEFINITELY old and in need of repairs, but it is close to Lake Michigan and is decently priced compared to the competition nearby. It is also a few minute walk from the train station that can take you across most of north chicago. Really week shower heads and minimal amenities but its enough for a basic work stay, wouldnt recommend for more than two people. Also A/C is weak. Hopefully they renovate soon it could be an amazing spot. ##### Sterling Stayed 1 night in Sep 2022 ### 4/10 Poor #### Sultan Nov 14, 2022 Disliked: Cleanliness, amenities, property conditions & facilities The bathtub had lots of hair. 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